TMI BlogPenalty u/s 129 and 130, Section 17(5)(i)X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... Dear Sir/Madam Please respond to my query Thanks in advance After amendment of Section 129 now penalty is only needed to be paid for release of goods and conveyance - and tax is to be paid along with GSTR-3B . So 17(5)(i) says tax paid in accordance with Sec 74 , 129 , 130 - ITC is not available - so now 17(5)(i) is not applicable in case of sec 129 ? Means we can take ITC. And in sec 130 the word tax is not there, nowhere said to pay tax - means 17(5)(i) doesn't apply here. If yes then why it sec 130 included in 17(5)(i) . Is my understanding correct. - Reply By Shilpi Jain - The Reply = Agreed. The word now used in Sec.129 is penalty and not tax. 17(5) remains the way it was when the earlier ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... prov of 129 existed. - Reply By KASTURI SETHI - The Reply = SH.Chintapalli Manikanta Ji, Sections 129 and 130 of CGST Act are seas. In addition to penalties, fine etc, both Sections also talk of tax evasion. You cannot deny that the ultimate purpose of both Sections is to check tax evasion and deter tax evaders. Both Sections are not independent of the element of tax-evasion. - Reply By KASTURI SETHI - The Reply = Sections 74 , 129 130 of CGST Act under Section 17(5)(i) are interwoven. Sections 129 and 130 can lay foundation for raising demand of tax, interest, penalty, fine etc. under Section 74 of CGST Act , depending upon the nature of offence. So not even remote possibility of availing ITC ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... in the scenario depicted by the querist. - Reply By Alkesh Jani - The Reply = Shri, As per the query, I am of the view that Section 129 is for goods under transit if seized or detained. Therefore, penalty is prescribed when goods and/or conveyance is seized or detained during the movement (transportation of goods). For now, it is settled law that detaining officer cannot act as assessing officer. With regards to section 129 and 130 , on plain reading no where payment of tax is mentioned, as it will be against the principles of self-assessment, and I am sure that no credit is available for any penalty paid, as section 16 talks of tax charged and not of penalty. However, in some cases, if any tax is paid during the ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... course of confiscation, detention or seizer, no credit is available for such tax paid, as it will be out of the ambit of term Supply . Our experts are requested to correct me if the view taken is mistaken or has missed something. Thanks. - Reply By Alkesh Jani - The Reply = Dear All, just to add that Section 129 and 130 as on 01.01.2022. Thanks - Reply By KASTURI SETHI - The Reply = Dear Sh.Alkesh Jani Ji, My response is as under :- As per the query, I am of the view that Section 129 is for goods under transit if seized or detained. Therefore, penalty is prescribed when goods and/or conveyance is seized or detained during the movement (transportation of goods). Agreed. For now, it is settled law tha ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... t detaining officer cannot act as assessing officer. (Agreed) With regards to Sections 129 and 130 , on plain reading no where payment of tax is mentioned, (Do not agree). Without implication of the tax element, the purpose of Sections 129 and 130 is defeated. as it will be against the principles of self-assessment, and I am sure that no credit is available for any penalty paid, as section 16 talks of tax charged and not of penalty . (Agreed) However, in some cases, if any tax is paid during the course of confiscation, detention or seizer, no credit is available for such tax paid, as it will be out of the ambit of term Supply . (Agreed but subject to the facts circumstances of each.) Waiting eagerly ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... for your response on each point. Your views matter a lot for me also. - Reply By Sadanand Bulbule - The Reply = Dear all Since 01/01/2022, the element of tax is subsumed in penalty under Section 129 and fine under Section 130 . However rate of tax is required to be reckoned for the purpose of quantifying the amount penalty or fine as the case may be. Determination of tax or its demand is outside the domain of Section 129 / 130 . Thus in my opinion, the question of paying tax in addition to penalty or fine does not arise,much less utilizing its credit. So referral of Section 17[5][1] under such situation is not needed. - Reply By KASTURI SETHI - The Reply = Sh. Sadanand Bulbule Ji, Sir, We a ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... re on the same page. Only way of expression is different. Your art of expression has made the picture crystal clear in a better way. I repeat that you have echoed my thoughts. To cap it all, the querist cannot get what in his mind is brewing. - Reply By Alkesh Jani - The Reply = Respected Shri Kasturiji Sir, I am glad that you are in agreement with most of the view taken by me, my view where disagreement is as under It is settled by Apex court that Credit earned is property and vested right under constitution of India. If we see the provisions of Section 129 and 130 before amendment, tax was required to be paid along with penalty as such, ITC was denied under Section 17(5) . Now ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... if the goods in transit are detained and /or confiscated or seized, even after satisfying the term supply, the receiver of the goods may be deprived of his vested right, which is against the spirit of law. The Rule of interpretation says that the provision should be read to make another provision work and not to struck down, if ITC is denied it may be in contradiction to the provisions of Section 16 which receiver of the goods has earned and also his vested right and property. Further, various courts has held that provisions relating to E-way bill is a procedural provision (mechanical) and does not prove the intention to evade the tax, hence receiver of the goods may not suffer for ITC earned. Thus, making suitable amendment, makes t ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... he other provision workable, will surely reduce the mitigation and/or litigation. Regarding quantification of penalty, the open market value can be taken, as the transaction value may not be accepted by the Officer, as he thinks that the goods transported are with intent to evade the payment of tax. Thanks With Due Regards. - Reply By Padmanathan Kollengode - The Reply = Dear querist, your understanding is correct. Post amendment, section 129 does not provide for tax. Only penalty @ 200% of tax is levied. So, it does not impact 17(5) after the amendment. - Reply By CHINTAPALLI MANIKANTA - The Reply = I agree with all the experts. Thanks for clearing the doubt that ITC can be availed post amendment of Sec 129 ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X ..... . - Penalty u/s 129 and 130, Section 17(5)(i) - Query Started By: - CHINTAPALLI MANIKANTA Dated:- 7-2-2024 Last Replied Date:- 9-2-2024 Goods and Services Tax - GST - Got 11 Replies - GST - Discussion Forum - Knowledge Sharing, reply post by an expert, personal opinion Tax Management India - taxmanagementindia - taxmanagement - taxmanagementindia.com - TMI - TaxTMI - TMITax ..... X X X X Extracts X X X X X X X X Extracts X X X X
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