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Bill to ship to, Goods and Services Tax - GST

Issue Id: - 113096
Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- dineshrao ullal

Bill to ship to


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Hi, we are a trading unit and having our registered office in Bangalore,

My question is as follows

IF I receive a purchase order from a Bangalore based company asking me to bill to Bangalore but ship to Mumbai should I apply CGST and SGST or IGST.

My customer is asking for a CGST and SGST billing but when I am shipping the goods when I prepare the e waybill the online portal allows me to fill only the IGST details.

What is the correct tax type that I have to use?

Kindly advice.

Thanks and regards

Dinesh Rao Ullal

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1 Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- KASTURI SETHI

IGST is correct.


2 Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- dineshrao ullal

Thanks for the info are there any government notification to this which i can also refer


3 Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- KASTURI SETHI

Ultimate destination for delivery and consumption is Mumbai. Hence place of Supply is Mumbai. It is to be treated as inter-State supply. Read Section 7 (1) of IGST Act. 2017.


4 Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- CS SANJAY MALHOTRA

CGST and SGST is applicable as tax depends upon Bill to party.

Banglore party shall raise his invoice charging IGST. As rightly said by Kasturi ji, that GST is consumption based tax hence when banglore co sourcing material from you raises invoice on Mumbai, IGST is levied and consuming state gets tax.

When the goods are removed on instructions of third person, time and place shall be delivery’s of such third person. Refer section 10(1)(b) of IGST Act.


5 Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- Surender Gupta

I agree with the views expressed by learned experts. CGST plus SGST or IGST is applicable on the basis of place of supply of goods. In your case the place of supply of goods on the instructions of the third-party is outside the state of Karnataka, but it is subject to exception. Since the location of third party in within your state, it will be intra-state supply and CGST+SGST will be applicable.  [Reply as Corrected]


6 Dated: 23-11-2017
By:- CS SANJAY MALHOTRA

To reiterate CGST and SGST is applicable as supplier and bill to party is in Bangalore.


7 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- Ganeshan Kalyani

I agree with the views of Sri Sanjay Sir.


8 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- Ganeshan Kalyani

CGST + SGST is applicable.


9 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- KASTURI SETHI

Really healthy discussion. Experts have enlightened more areas. Cherished indeed.


10 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- dineshrao ullal

so we are still confused ?

what should we charge CGST+SGST or IGST

kindly reconfirm..


11 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- CS SANJAY MALHOTRA

CGST + SGST


12 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- Ramaswamy S

In a bill to ship to transactions - there are two transactions and not one.

In the instant case, Bangalore party (recipient) places an order another Bangalore party (supplier) to bill to recipient and ship to Mumbai (consignee).

The first transaction - Bangalore (supplier) to Bangalore (Bill to) (recipient) [ ship to Mumbai]

The supplier raises a intra state invoice charging CGST+SGST. The ITC is availed by the recipient and also makes the payment to the supplier. The recipient is deemed to have received the goods. GSTR-1 (supplier) and GSTR-2 (recipient) matched

The second Transaction - Bangalore (recipient) to Mumbai (consignee)

The recipient raises an invoice to Mumbai party (consignee) charging IGST (Mumbai). The consingee takes the ITC on the invoice of the recipient and receiving the goods on the supplier's invoice. GSTR-1 of the recipient and the GSTR-2 of the consignee matched.

Regards

S.Ramaswamy


13 Dated: 24-11-2017
By:- Ganeshan Kalyani

In view of the complications as highlighted by Sri Ramaswamy Sir, it is advisable to do direct billing i.e. ask Karnataka supplier to bill to Mumbai. Here, Karnataka supplier will upload outward supply in GSTR 1 which will get auto populated in GSTR 2A of the Mumbai party. Mumbai party will accept it and there by credit is availed by Mumbai party.

Whereas in case of Bill to ship to transaction the billing pattern as explained nicely by Sri Ramaswamy Sir need to be followed which increased additional compliance for the purchaser.


14 Dated: 25-11-2017
By:- KASTURI SETHI

Nobody is wrong including Querist. Law has been framed wrongly hurried. Goods in question have been physically consumed outside the State. However all experts have interpreted intricacies nicely. No need to explain more.


15 Dated: 25-11-2017
By:- Ganeshan Kalyani

Sri Kasturi Sir, I agree with you in total. When GST was to implement, it was said that it is a consumption based tax. So in this query, IGST should be applicable. But when actual is published the interpretation of the law states that the place of supply is within the state , hence CGST + SGST will be applicable.

Really the law is drafted in hurry. Lot of clarifications still required. Thanks.


16 Dated: 25-11-2017
By:- Ramaswamy S

Please see the clarifications issued by CBEC on this matter.

Please refer page 7.41 of R.K. Jain's GST Manual (2nd edition- July 2017).

Alternatively, you can also refer to GST Law Times page 600 Volume 2: Issue 3 : 20th July 2017

Regards

S.Ramaswamy


17 Dated: 25-11-2017
By:- Ganeshan Kalyani

Would be grateful Sir, if you can reproduce those provision here. Querist and visitors may not have the referred material. Thanks.


18 Dated: 26-11-2017
By:- Kishan Barai

CGST + SGST would be applicable in your case


19 Dated: 4-12-2017
By:- Kishan Barai

Lets try to make it simple for all our TMI Members

Case : Banglore Buyer B1 is buying form Banglore Supplier B2 & asking supplier to ship goods to Mumbai

Bill 1 : Banglore B1 to Mumbai = IGST

Bill 2 : Banglore B2 to B1 = CGST + SGST

Please correct me if i am wrong

Thank You


20 Dated: 7-12-2017
By:- RAJESHMANGAL AGRAWAL

Dear Dinesh Ji,

As already answered here your sale will be treated as Intra State sale & SGST+CGST will be levied.

In my opinion Sec 10(1)(b) is a very helpful section for TAKING INTO ACCOUNT BILL TO SHIP TO TRANSACTION.


21 Dated: 15-12-2017
By:- pradeep kumar

Dear Experts i need more clarifications from this topic , because our client has to face so many problems ..

in the raise of the e way bill also .. thank you advance by experts


22 Dated: 20-12-2017
By:- vijay kumar

The flow of ITC is from Bangalore - Bangalore - Mumbai. If the goods are finally sold in Mumbai, the IGST credit (from Bangalore to Mumbai) will be used for payment of SGST by the Mumbai trader and that SGST will go to Maharashtra, as per the adjustment done by the Centre (Presuming this to be a stand alone transaction). If the goods are destined to some other state, IGST is used to pay IGST again and the cycle ends in the state where the goods are consumed and that state gets the tax. In any case, the tax goes to the state where the goods are finally destined/ consumed. Hence, no error in drafting the law, in my view.


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